“Songwriters on Songwriting”: Pete Seeger

October 29th, 2012 by

I wrote my first song when I was 14 years old. Over the years, I’ve composed hundreds of songs. It was that interest – music – that led me to take a year off from pursuing a doctorate and led me down the circuitous path that has been the rest of my life.

I don’t write songs nowadays, more focused on screenplays and writing about writing. But I can’t help but think at least some of who I am as a writer derives from all that time studying and composing songs.

Which is why I say that one of my favorite ‘screenwriting’ books is “Songwriters on Songwriting, a collection of interviews by Paul Zollo with some of the great songwriters of our time, from Mose Allison to Frank Zappa. For what are songs but stories?

Each day this week at this time, I will post insight from a songwriter about their craft in the hope their words may inspire you as a writer.

Today: Pete Seeger.

You mentioned that ideas come to you sometimes when you’re dozing, or very early in the morning. Why do you think that is?

In solving a problem, you often have to make connections between two things that aren’t usually connected. You know, E.M. Forster, the novelist, was asked, “What are your words of wisdom for future generations?” He said, “Only connect.”

An inventor might search for the two substances to put together. In the case of the poet, it’s the two words or three words. With a musician, it’s the notes or the rhythms. Whatever it is, your brain often suppresses such idle connections because you’re busy with the business of the day. You’re doing whatever you’re supposed to do. But there come times when you’re no longer doing what you’re supposed to do and you’re just kind of rambling, making strange connections…

It’s been well known that many a poem or song has been written when someone was dreaming. Coleridge’s famous “In Xanadu did Kubla Khan / A stately pleasure dome decree…” This is fantastic poetry. And he thought of it all in a dream. Then somebody interrupted it before he got it all written down, so he only got about fourteen lines and that was that.

Here’s one thing I take away from Seeger’s comment: Connections. Rambling. So much of writing is about connections. Connections with characters. Connections with the story universe. Connections with ideas. Connections with themes. Sometimes, perhaps even oftentimes, we find connections through intentional effort, sitting down and immersing ourselves in the story through our conscious energy.

But sometimes we need to ramble. Sometimes we need to dream. Sometimes we need to let go of our conscious energy and settle into that mystical, magical place where surprises arise.

I don’t think there’s any rule about how and when to do one or the other. Just follow your gut. But allow yourself the freedom to ramble. To follow your inner instincts and impulses.

It’s a great way to surface interesting, unique and unusual story bits.

It’s also a counteractive to writing formulaic crap.

Tomorrow: Willie Dixon.

3 thoughts on ““Songwriters on Songwriting”: Pete Seeger

  1. Shaula Evans says:

    David Bowie and David Byrne are also great proponents of aleatory writing, which I am a fan of myself. Here is a link to an article by David Byrne where he has really interesting things to say about what he calls “emergent storytelling”.

    Oh, and do you know this great quote from Patti Smith:

    “These things were in my mind from the first moment I entered the vocal booth: The gratitude I had for rock and roll as it pulled me through a difficult adolescence. The joy I experienced when I danced. The moral power I gleaned in taking responsibility for one’s action.”

    I hope some of us approach writing in a similar way.

    I’m looking forward to the rest of the installments of this series, Scott! I’m a big fan of “innovation through recontextualization”, taking lessons from one field and applying them to another. Thank you!

  2. Mike Shields says:

    I remember Steve Martin’s Ramblin’ Guy. I’ve always modeled my career after him. Someone someday will let me know when I’m successful.

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